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		<title>STUPID ADVICE: Day-Trade Your Band&#8217;s Money</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Occasionally, Flute Squad guitarist Ryan Graham will hound me for band money in the pursuit of some hare-brained scheme. This is one of those instances, and this post was written by him. ***We&#8217;ve already touched on how we manage our &#8230; <a href="https://www.theflutesquad.com/?p=39">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em style="font-size: 90%;">Occasionally, Flute Squad guitarist <strong>Ryan Graham</strong> will hound me for band money in the pursuit of some hare-brained scheme. This is one of those instances, and this post was written by him.</em></p>
<p>***<br />We&rsquo;ve already touched on how <a title="Why Are Bands So Broke ALL THE TIME!!??" href="http://www.theflutesquad.com/blog/2009/11/20/why-are-bands-so-broke-all-the-time.html" target="_blank">we manage our band account with  ING Direct.&nbsp;</a> This is a very convenient way to keep track of our money,  but the paltry 1% interest we earn on it (through no fault of ING &ndash; it&rsquo;s  actually a better rate than most savings accounts) doesn&rsquo;t exactly make  our money work for us.</p>
<p>Sure,  most bands use their band account to buy merchandise and pay for CD pressings, which in turn  makes them more money and in turn can be seen as an investment.&nbsp; However,  wouldn&rsquo;t  it be nice if you didn&rsquo;t have to do as much work to make your band some cash?&nbsp; Like, if piles and piles of money just appeared out of nowhere with minimal  time and effort on your part?&nbsp; <strong>THAT&rsquo;S THE STOCK MARKET, BABY!!!</strong></p>
<p>&ldquo;Wait,  wait, wait!&rdquo; you&rsquo;re saying.&nbsp; &ldquo;Haven&rsquo;t a bunch of people recently lost  their entire savings in the stock market?&rdquo;&nbsp; To which we reply, <strong>&ldquo;YEAH,  STUPID PEOPLE!&rdquo;</strong></p>
<p>You&rsquo;re telling me that you don&rsquo;t have enough balls to gamble away your  entire band account in the hope of MASSIVE PROFIT?!&nbsp; Well then have fun living in your  little shack with your mom, cry-baby!</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong style="font-size: 130%;">THE FLUTE SQUAD IS WILLING TO RISK IT ALL, SUCKERS!!!*</strong></p>
<p>Okay,  so we actually received a notification from  ING saying that if we opened up a stock trading account through them they&rsquo;d  give us 50 no-fee trades and $50 in cash after the first trade.&nbsp; So we  figured, shit, as long as we don&rsquo;t lose more than $50, who cares what  happens?&nbsp; Let&rsquo;s blow some cash on the stock market!</p>
<p>So  without further adieu, here&rsquo;s the diary of our wild 5 day experiment in day-trading:</p>
<p><strong>Day  1 &#8211; 10.26.09</strong></p>
<p>Start  of Sharebuilder&#8217;s 50 no-fee trades.&nbsp; Fees are usually $10 per  trade, meaning it takes $20 to get in and out of a stock.&nbsp; But with no  fees, you can cut margins closer and sell at smaller rises/falls without worrying about making up  that $20.&nbsp; <strong>Day-trading is awesome!!!** </strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Bought  10 shares of NFLX (Netflix) @ 55.90</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Bought 7 shares of AMZN (Amazon) @  123.07</p>
<p>AMZN  went up a bunch, more than $2.50 at one point.&nbsp; NFLX went up at first  but then started dropping.&nbsp; Will have to sell tomorrow if it keeps  tanking.</p>
<p>Whole  market down today.&nbsp; Expect both stocks to go up tomorrow if market does  better.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Final  tally:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">NFLX 55.17 =&nbsp; -.73/shr&nbsp;&nbsp; =  -$7.3</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">AMZN 124.65 = +1.58/shr = +$11.06</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Total  for today = +$3.76</p>
<p>***</p>
<p><strong>Day  2 &#8211; 10.27.09</strong></p>
<p>Everything  is down today as of 12:45PM.&nbsp; Consumer Confidence Index fell  unexpectedly.&nbsp; Not the best time to be invested in retail stocks.</p>
<p>Amazon  has dropped over 3% and Netflix is down more almost 1%.&nbsp; Overall we&rsquo;re  now down about $30.&nbsp; There&rsquo;s a good chance that both of these stocks  have peaked and are now on a downturn.&nbsp; I&rsquo;ll be selling both if we go  below a $50 loss, which probably won&rsquo;t happen today.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p><strong>Day  3 &#8211; 10.28.09</strong></p>
<p>Amazon  was down $5/share at one point yesterday, and I was pretty close to  taking the loss and calling it quits, but decided to stick it out.&nbsp;  Luckily it went back up a bit, but we still ended up down about $24 when  the markets closed.</p>
<p>Not  much to do today except continue to stick with it and hope the stocks  rise.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Update:</strong> Sold Amazon @ 124.98  for a $13.37 gain.&nbsp; Still deciding whether to take a loss on Netflix.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>End  of Day Update:</strong> Good timing on the Amazon sell; it didn&rsquo;t go much above  that and then dropped.&nbsp; Netflix continued to drop, and is down about  $2.30/share right now from where I bought it.&nbsp; So altogether we&rsquo;re still  down about $10.</p>
<p>All  of the markets went down again today and have been since Day 1, and  apparently this is the worst they&rsquo;ve been since July.&nbsp; So not really a  good time to try to make any money off of stocks.&nbsp; So even though we&rsquo;re down, it  could be much worse.&nbsp; Hopefully Netflix will go up enough tomorrow to  at least bring us back to even.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p><strong>Day  4 &#8211; 10.29.09</strong></p>
<p>Futures  were up before the markets opened due to a lot of good  financial data that came out this morning, so I decided to buy 25  shares of SSO @ 34.01/share.&nbsp; SSO is an ETF that doubles the gains or  losses of the S&amp;P 500.&nbsp; It&rsquo;s a fairly risky stock, because if the entire market tanks you lose twice as  much.&nbsp;  We&rsquo;ll see what happens.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Update 12:28PM:</strong>&nbsp; Sold SSO for $34.53, for a  profit of $.52/share, so $13 total.&nbsp; It gave me some message about &ldquo;free  riding&rdquo; when I tried to sell, which is basically buying and selling  shares when previous trades haven&rsquo;t settled yet.&nbsp; <strong>Hopefully the Feds  don&rsquo;t come after Nikc, since the account is in his name.&nbsp;</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img src="/storage/sharebuilder.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>In  all seriousness, they might freeze us from buying any stocks for 90  days, but that&rsquo;s fine because we have to be all out tomorrow, which is  when the fee-free trading ends.&nbsp; We&rsquo;re  working with such a small amount of money that spending $10 per trade  would pretty much negate any quick profit-taking.&nbsp; For example, our overall  fees for these trades would have been $60.&nbsp; Even over at tradeking.com,  where trades are $5/each, that&rsquo;s still $30, which would have wiped out  the profits we made.&nbsp; Of course, if you&rsquo;re dealing in $10K transactions,  $10 for a trade fee isn&rsquo;t a big deal because you can make much more on  each transaction.&nbsp; But for small trades the fees can sink you quickly.</p>
<p>Netflix  is back up around the $55 mark.&nbsp; If it goes up to $55.90 today I&rsquo;ll  sell.&nbsp; If not, I&rsquo;ll wait until tomorrow and see what happens.&nbsp; It&rsquo;s  definitely a gamble, but at this point we have over $26 in earnings, so I can  afford to gamble a little.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Update  4:05PM:&nbsp;</strong> Up about $20 total after today&rsquo;s rise.&nbsp; Netflix went to  $55.31, so I&rsquo;m waiting until tomorrow to sell.&nbsp; Account hasn&rsquo;t been  frozen yet!</p>
<p>***</p>
<p><strong>Day  5 &#8211; 10.30.09</strong></p>
<p>Markets  dropping steadily again today.&nbsp; Netflix down about $1, but I&rsquo;m waiting  until around 12:30PM to sell, which is when it seems to peak again each  day, judging by past charts.&nbsp; We&rsquo;re definitely going to be taking a loss  on this one.</p>
<p>Sold  Netflix for $54.49, which was a $1.41/per share ($14.10 total) loss.&nbsp; As I said at the beginning of the week, I knew it was possible  this had hit its short-term peak, and as a result it was a risk getting  in.&nbsp; However, as a long-term investment I think Netflix is probably a great bet,  since they&rsquo;re a cool company with some pretty progressive ideas.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p><strong>SUMMARY</strong></p>
<p>Altogether we made $12.27 for  the week, basically a 1% gain.&nbsp; To compare, the S&amp;P 500 was down 4.7% for the week, so in this  case we actually did beat the market by a very sizeable margin  (almost 6%).</p>
<p><strong>But  here&rsquo;s the kicker:</strong> The only reason we did this whole thing is because we knew we&rsquo;d get a $50 bonus.&nbsp; So we  actually made $62.27!&nbsp; <strong>HAHAHA, TAKE THAT STOCK MARKET!!!</strong></p>
<p>In  all seriousness, even though we came out ahead, it was very stressful  and actually took a lot of time, sitting there watching stocks rise and  fall all day.&nbsp; <strong>So while the stock market might very well be a viable way to make some quick cash  from your band account, we can&rsquo;t in good conscience recommend it.</strong>***&nbsp; Your  time and money is probably better spent dreaming up and executing great  marketing and merchandising ideas or (gasp!) MAKING SOME FUCKING  MUSIC!!!</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><em>*We don&#8217;t recommend day-trading unless you have about $2500 to start and a huge nerd like Ryan Graham in your band to monitor and stress out about all the minor rises and falls of the market on an hourly basis</em></p>
<p><em>**We </em><em>don&#8217;t </em><em>recommend day-trading your band&#8217;s money at all, </em><em>actually.</em></p>
<p><em>***So stick to your part-time job flipping burgers at Starbucks or whatever. SIKE! Be somebody and fucking day-trade already!<br /></em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back in 2006 The Dirty Marmaduke Flute Squad got a gig headlining at the Talking Head Club in Baltimore. We had been playing all over town for over a year and this venue seemed like a big deal. We somehow &#8230; <a href="https://www.theflutesquad.com/?p=17">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 120%;">Back in 2006</span> The Dirty Marmaduke Flute Squad got a gig headlining at the Talking Head Club in Baltimore. We had been playing all over town for over a year and this venue seemed like a big deal.</p>
<p>We somehow managed to pack the place. Actually there&#8217;s a pretty amusing story about the bathrooms not working that night. But for this post, we&#8217;ll skip ahead to the part where the promoter of the show walks up to me and hands me 5 sweaty twenty-dollar bills. It seemed like a godsend, because we never had gotten paid to play before, we hardly even considered asking.</p>
<p>I proudly walked up to the stage where the rest of the band was tearing down the gear and handed every one a twenty-dollar bill and kept one for myself. It seemed to divide easy enough, and it surely paid for the beer we drank that night. </p>
<p><strong>I was an idiot.</strong></p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m going to tell you some advice that I hope is so painfully obvious that you throw up both hands and spit coffee all over your keyboard:<br /><strong style="font-size: 150%;"><br />DON&#8217;T SPLIT UP THE MONEY! PUT ALL OF THE MONEY IN AN ONLINE SAVINGS ACCOUNT FOR YOUR BAND!</strong></p>
<p>Before you click away in disgust, recognize that this isn&#8217;t some commercial. Nobody in the Flute Squad works for the banks. This is real world advice that worked for us. The sooner we started saving money, the sooner we became a band with products and goals.</p>
<p>And before you tell me: &#8220;Oh yeah, my band saves money, Murray saves it all in a shoebox in his room,&#8221; let me tell you this. I&#8217;ve heard of the shoebox savings plan. I heard a really terrible story of a band that did just that, only to have a crackhead roommate steal their entire fund. Heartbreaking stuff. Don&#8217;t be a knucklehead, save your money with a financial institution.<br /><em><br /><strong>Let me answer a few questions from the audience:</strong></em><br /><strong><br />1. Why? We each individually worked for the money!</strong></p>
<p>Listen, if you are interested in doing this band thing for the long haul you are going to need some scratch to do alot of things that real bands do. <strong>CDs</strong>, <strong>stickers</strong>, <strong>shirts</strong>, <strong>equipment</strong>,<strong> bar tabs</strong> of band members who bail, <strong>gas money</strong>, <strong>tour buses</strong>, et cetera, all need to be paid for at some point .</p>
<p>I think we can all agree that your plan to buy a Red Bull and Vodka for that hot chick at the bar is better suited for your own money rather than the band&#8217;s money.<strong></p>
<p>2. Who gets to be in charge? Everyone in my band is terrible with money!</strong></p>
<p>I hate to break it to you, but you&#8217;re the one reading this blog, which immediately makes you the smartest member of your band. You should probably get over your fear of money, read <a title="I Will Teach You To Be Rich" href="http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com" target="_blank">I Will Teach You To Be Rich</a>, and start dominating your band&#8217;s earnings.</p>
<p><strong>3. I hate you. I didn&#8217;t get involved in this to deal with money!</strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s not really a question, but okay. Maybe you actually started the band so you wouldn&#8217;t have to deal with problems like this. But it&#8217;s inevitable that at some point in your life you are going to have to demonstrate some sort of fiscal responsibility. At least you can see the results of your savings when your band gets back its first CD, all shiny and shrink-wrapped with a 12-page fold-out lyric sheet.</p>
<p><strong>4. What do I do? You are 100% right, but I&#8217;m confused!</strong></p>
<p>We&nbsp;knew you&#8217;d come around. Here&#8217;s what&nbsp;to do:</p>
<p>Go to <a title="ING Direct Orange Savings" href="http://home.ingdirect.com/products/products.asp?s=OrangeSavingsAccount" target="_blank">ING Direct</a> and follow the instructions to start an <a title="ING Direct Orange Savings" href="http://home.ingdirect.com/products/products.asp?s=OrangeSavingsAccount" target="_blank"><strong>Orange Savings Account</strong></a>. You will need to go to your local bank and open a physical checking account to start the online account.</p>
<p>While there are other options,&nbsp;we personally use and can vouch for ING Direct. We&#8217;ve stayed with them for years because they have (nearly) the best interest rates, and are constantly upgrading their security and options.&nbsp;We also use&nbsp;an <a title="ING Direct Electric Orange Account" href="http://home.ingdirect.com/products/products.asp?s=ElectricOrange" target="_blank">Electric Orange Account</a> for when the band is playing out a lot. This is an online checking account that gives you a debit card that you can use like a credit card.</p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: 120%;"><br />Coming soon: </span>How the Flute Squad beat the odds by timing the stock market!</strong></p>
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